page 13 The best Steve Saunders Interview ever 2013
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When you look back on that now do you think that was an iconic time in trials ?
Yes I guess I do now but at the time it was just another day at the office Was the benefit to you at HRC greater than your days at Armstrong? In 85 yes, yes, definitely Did you alter bike for Scotland that year at all ? No, all we did was change the gearing for Scotland |
Did he do any exhibitions in 86?
We did a few in Japan for Honda themselves
How many times did you go out there?
Sarah says “I went there once”
Four or 5 times
Was he encouraged to smoke by Rothmans?
God no.
Who did you travel to the World rounds with
Derrick my mechanic at the time and occasionally with Sarah
Who paid Edmondson?
Either Hrc or Honda britain
How did you get around in 1986
Anything in Europe was driven in the van. In America and Japan the bike was put on a plane, yes
We did a few in Japan for Honda themselves
How many times did you go out there?
Sarah says “I went there once”
Four or 5 times
Was he encouraged to smoke by Rothmans?
God no.
Who did you travel to the World rounds with
Derrick my mechanic at the time and occasionally with Sarah
Who paid Edmondson?
Either Hrc or Honda britain
How did you get around in 1986
Anything in Europe was driven in the van. In America and Japan the bike was put on a plane, yes
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Can you remember any stories of those days?
Computers in those days were not the size of i-pads or telephones like they are these days. Computers were massive big things. When we were testing with hrc we used to have to have a computer strapped to the bike and all these bits dangled down and attached to the bike while you were riding it. It was about a foot and a half wide and 8” thick. You had to ride the bike like John Wayne. It was just a hard drive really, it was huge. You had to go riding, ride your sections so that they could get data from your bike. You think data feedback is fairly new don’t you, but no its not.
Were there any problems getting parts?
No
What special features can you remember about that bike?
The engine casings were magnesium, the carburettor was magnesium, the forks were magnesium, the sliders were magnesium and the sanctions were titanium, spindles were titanium and all the nuts and bolts
What can you remember about the rear shock?
Well, it had 2 springs in it. This was just before the springiness in rear shocks and I guess it was just starting to get into the springy
Computers in those days were not the size of i-pads or telephones like they are these days. Computers were massive big things. When we were testing with hrc we used to have to have a computer strapped to the bike and all these bits dangled down and attached to the bike while you were riding it. It was about a foot and a half wide and 8” thick. You had to ride the bike like John Wayne. It was just a hard drive really, it was huge. You had to go riding, ride your sections so that they could get data from your bike. You think data feedback is fairly new don’t you, but no its not.
Were there any problems getting parts?
No
What special features can you remember about that bike?
The engine casings were magnesium, the carburettor was magnesium, the forks were magnesium, the sliders were magnesium and the sanctions were titanium, spindles were titanium and all the nuts and bolts
What can you remember about the rear shock?
Well, it had 2 springs in it. This was just before the springiness in rear shocks and I guess it was just starting to get into the springy
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Can you remember that iconic Patley Bridge round in 86?
Yes, pretty much, I can remember most of that
What can you remember?
There’s a video on you tube actually.
That was wet, but not as wet as Petersfield in 88. At Pately Bridge the rocks were huge. It was a big rocks and mega slippery.
Yes, pretty much, I can remember most of that
What can you remember?
There’s a video on you tube actually.
That was wet, but not as wet as Petersfield in 88. At Pately Bridge the rocks were huge. It was a big rocks and mega slippery.
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What happened to your Rothmans exactly? Was yours the one that went in the crusher or was yours the one that went to Italy ?
Well, I believe that one of mine is in Italy. I don’t believe that any of them went in the crushers. I think another of mine is in Yorkshire somewhere. I did a talk show in Scotland one year and there was a guy there and he basically said that he had my bike and asked me if I wanted to buy it. I would have bought it then to be honest.
Did he say how much he wanted ?
No he didn’t say. I thought he might have stayed behind at the end and had a chat but he didn’t and he was gone and I don’t know who the hell he was. He was a flat capper from Yorkshire
I believe one of Eddy’s twin shock 360’s is in France and I think one of his mono’s is in France as well.
So you don’t think any of them went in the crusher?
No I don’t, I think it was a whole load of parts, just chucked a load of parts in, locked the doors and buggered off with the bikes in.
Derrick was supposed to have had one in his front lounge ?
I believe this is the one that this guy in Yorkshire has got, yes
He keeps that wrapped up, in terms of publicity ?
Yes, someone will know
In 1986 you had a terrific result at the British experts trial. Was there anything particularly pushing you on this day ?
Well it was at my beloved Hawkstone park. The last official event on the Honda which was annoying and sad at the same time cos although I went to Fantic it wasn’t by choice and so it was an extra determined effort on my behalf to wave good bye and say, look what I could do .
How did you get told by Honda that they wouldn’t be continuing?
We basically went and sat in exactly the same room where I got the bad news, to get the good news. You finished 2nd in the world championship, Rothmans are pulling out and putting all of their money into F1, we are not continuing with this sport apart from Eddy having one more year on his contract to run. They are very honourable people so they would run that extra year with Eddy, but basically that was it. I finished 2nd in the world championship and that wasn’t good enough, see you later.
A robbed first?
A robbed first, yes
Were you massively gutted at this point?
Yes, massively gutted, massively gutted. I’d already had offers from a couple of different factories on the table that year, but none of them were ones I really wanted to take.
Who were they from?
It was Honda I wanted to stay with, it was Fantic,Garelli and Aprilia
You chose Fantic
I chose Fantic, rightly or wrongly
Do you look back upon that and think it was the wrong decision
No, I don’t think I made the wrong decision there. I just wish I hadn’t been put into the decision where I had to make it the best from a bad job
Was the deal with Fantic financially worse?
No, it was better, the contract was better. The bonuses and everything and the financial aspect of the Fantic contract was very very good and lucrative but they didn’t have the bike that I wanted to ride. I wanted to be on the Honda
Well, I believe that one of mine is in Italy. I don’t believe that any of them went in the crushers. I think another of mine is in Yorkshire somewhere. I did a talk show in Scotland one year and there was a guy there and he basically said that he had my bike and asked me if I wanted to buy it. I would have bought it then to be honest.
Did he say how much he wanted ?
No he didn’t say. I thought he might have stayed behind at the end and had a chat but he didn’t and he was gone and I don’t know who the hell he was. He was a flat capper from Yorkshire
I believe one of Eddy’s twin shock 360’s is in France and I think one of his mono’s is in France as well.
So you don’t think any of them went in the crusher?
No I don’t, I think it was a whole load of parts, just chucked a load of parts in, locked the doors and buggered off with the bikes in.
Derrick was supposed to have had one in his front lounge ?
I believe this is the one that this guy in Yorkshire has got, yes
He keeps that wrapped up, in terms of publicity ?
Yes, someone will know
In 1986 you had a terrific result at the British experts trial. Was there anything particularly pushing you on this day ?
Well it was at my beloved Hawkstone park. The last official event on the Honda which was annoying and sad at the same time cos although I went to Fantic it wasn’t by choice and so it was an extra determined effort on my behalf to wave good bye and say, look what I could do .
How did you get told by Honda that they wouldn’t be continuing?
We basically went and sat in exactly the same room where I got the bad news, to get the good news. You finished 2nd in the world championship, Rothmans are pulling out and putting all of their money into F1, we are not continuing with this sport apart from Eddy having one more year on his contract to run. They are very honourable people so they would run that extra year with Eddy, but basically that was it. I finished 2nd in the world championship and that wasn’t good enough, see you later.
A robbed first?
A robbed first, yes
Were you massively gutted at this point?
Yes, massively gutted, massively gutted. I’d already had offers from a couple of different factories on the table that year, but none of them were ones I really wanted to take.
Who were they from?
It was Honda I wanted to stay with, it was Fantic,Garelli and Aprilia
You chose Fantic
I chose Fantic, rightly or wrongly
Do you look back upon that and think it was the wrong decision
No, I don’t think I made the wrong decision there. I just wish I hadn’t been put into the decision where I had to make it the best from a bad job
Was the deal with Fantic financially worse?
No, it was better, the contract was better. The bonuses and everything and the financial aspect of the Fantic contract was very very good and lucrative but they didn’t have the bike that I wanted to ride. I wanted to be on the Honda
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How long were you mourning leaving Honda? 6months, a year?
Probably 2 or 3 years, yes. It really pissed me off. Eddy came out with the pink Honda and that had disc brakes on it and I did sneak a little go on it at one point and thought ooohhhhh yeeeesssss. ha ha
Did you prefer that bike to ride than the Fantic’s that you were now on ?
Oh God yes, massively
Would you still have preferred the last Honda to the last Fantic you rode ?
No, I think by the time they got to the 305 they were good bikes, but they were incredibly difficult people to work for.
Probably 2 or 3 years, yes. It really pissed me off. Eddy came out with the pink Honda and that had disc brakes on it and I did sneak a little go on it at one point and thought ooohhhhh yeeeesssss. ha ha
Did you prefer that bike to ride than the Fantic’s that you were now on ?
Oh God yes, massively
Would you still have preferred the last Honda to the last Fantic you rode ?
No, I think by the time they got to the 305 they were good bikes, but they were incredibly difficult people to work for.
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